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on the 22nd of March

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1967 we are returning from Gibraltar to

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quite suddenly we were aware that ahead

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of us was a star which was at least

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twice as bright as the best of Syria

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Seoul Venus all while it was changing

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color it was it was very very bright

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iridescent colors

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to Greens and blues beautiful Reds

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um and suddenly again suddenly

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everything happens

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it it started error batting

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it was moving around the sky doing

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figures of eight it was doing Loops it's

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it was maneuvering at a rate which is

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impossible in my view

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for

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um known

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aerodynamic laws

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and we asked border radar if they had

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any unidentified traffic and they did

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confirm they had unidentified traffic 10

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miles to the Western

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see a number of things from the flight

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deck

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other airplanes we see Reflections from

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the ground

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this is day and night time

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cloud formations the effects of sunlight

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on cloud Ice Crystals

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at higher levels it's quite common to

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see satellites

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visibility is is excellent it's a very

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wide angle of you laterally and

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vertically we run a very objective

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continuous check if you like of

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things that appear outside the airplane

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and in doing so for thousands and

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thousands of hours

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one builds up quite a bank of experience

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we're on a routine daylight flight back

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from Scotland to London Heathrow in a in

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a Vanguard

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cruising at about 24 000 feet

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we've just transferred from the Scottish

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controller to the Preston radar

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controller

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made our normal routine Radio Calls and

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within minutes the Preston radar

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controller alerted us

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he told us we have opposite direction

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traffic in the airway very fast moving

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immediately of course we looked out of

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the flight deck straight ahead of us to

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the 12 o'clock position

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an interview came

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a disc shaped craft it was shaped like a

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discus

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a more accurate description would be

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like a hubcap

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of American car

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a cup holder on the top diameter about

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30 feet in my view

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I was looking down on the craft the

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machine as it came past flying at very

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very high speed

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it came to within about a quarter of a

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mile of us I was looking down on it

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some two to three hundred feet below us

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two very curious things

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first of all there was no shock wave

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from this machine it was close enough

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in my experience it was close enough to

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give us quite a bump a noise and a bang

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as the Shockwave passed us

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secondly we made no attempt

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to report an air mist

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a near Collision or file an air safety

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report

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so that not only us as a crew

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but the Preston radar controller were

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aware that its strangeness didn't

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qualify

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25 years on I feel I've got a long and

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happy career behind me

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and I feel so strongly that the whole

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subject is

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and should be

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in the public domain

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so I broke ranks if you like and broke

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ranks and

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decided to talk about it openly

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to the media British Airways were

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apoplectic

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it's the only word I can use they gave

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me lengthy interviews and they followed

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up the interviews

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with a letter

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which in all fairness does describe the

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conflict that does exist

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between a subject UFOs

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which is on the The Fringe of

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believability and The credibility

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of British Airways captains British

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Airways wants the least possible

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controversy they don't want wacky

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captains they don't want wacky Crews

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they don't want any of the air crew

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involved with any subjects which have